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		<title>By: Evita Ochel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evita Ochel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 03:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert,

Thank you for stopping by and your question.

When it comes to supplements, I am very wary of all the companies, because even though I know that there are some benefits or must needs for them, a pill is still a pill and cannot replace the benefits of real, wholesome, natural food.

My experience with Jamieson is similar to my experience with other supplement companies. I will use one of their products if I must, for example I have used their B12 before or their echinacea, but generally speaking, they are not my first choice of companies. Jamieson is a typical drug store brand, which actually few health food stores carry. I also have not heard positive feedback on this company or their quality from some of the clients or naturopaths I have worked with. 

Having visited the Nutrilite facility, they have definitely become more reputable in my mind for many reasons, however, I did not visit the lab or see exactly how the supplements are made, their source, purity, quality, etc. I can only go by what I was taught there. The same goes for all other companies like Jamieson, Swiss, Natural Factors, etc. None of these in my opinion are better than the other. One way I know for sure is just to look at some of their non-medicinal ingredients. They all have fancy looking web sites and ad campaigns, but really unless we experience their supplement making process for ourselves, those fancy ads and claims mean nothing.

I know, I know that we have to give some benefit of the doubt and put some trust and faith in others and I do, but when it comes to supplements today, it is a very competitive and lucrative market and I would guarantee that Jamieson isn&#039;t today as high quality as they were say 30 years ago. So if I had to recommend a company, it would not likely be Jamieson. It wouldn&#039;t necessarily be Nutrilite either. It all depends on the product needed. The problem with all these companies and supplements is that no 3rd party has yet done some sort of purity or potency test comparing across the board. EWG is amazing at doing things like this, they have done it with cosmetics and bottled water for example...maybe one day they will do it with supplements.

When it comes to the omega-3 for example, both companies have several varieties. The first thing to do is compare the type of ingredients, as in what fish is used in each one. This alone can make a big difference in price. If you let me know what 2 specifically you are looking at, I can give you a better explanation of their quality. When it comes to fish oils in general, there are many, many poor quality ones out there today regardless of which company they come from. You almost have to cut the capsule in half, and smell/taste whether the fats are fresh or rancid. Secondly, look at the ingredients for fish which are low-mercury or toxin containing. (I don&#039;t eat fish, so I cannot tell you off hand which it would be.) However, research appears to point to krill being the optimal omega-3 seafood source.

Anyway I hope this helps somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>Thank you for stopping by and your question.</p>
<p>When it comes to supplements, I am very wary of all the companies, because even though I know that there are some benefits or must needs for them, a pill is still a pill and cannot replace the benefits of real, wholesome, natural food.</p>
<p>My experience with Jamieson is similar to my experience with other supplement companies. I will use one of their products if I must, for example I have used their B12 before or their echinacea, but generally speaking, they are not my first choice of companies. Jamieson is a typical drug store brand, which actually few health food stores carry. I also have not heard positive feedback on this company or their quality from some of the clients or naturopaths I have worked with. </p>
<p>Having visited the Nutrilite facility, they have definitely become more reputable in my mind for many reasons, however, I did not visit the lab or see exactly how the supplements are made, their source, purity, quality, etc. I can only go by what I was taught there. The same goes for all other companies like Jamieson, Swiss, Natural Factors, etc. None of these in my opinion are better than the other. One way I know for sure is just to look at some of their non-medicinal ingredients. They all have fancy looking web sites and ad campaigns, but really unless we experience their supplement making process for ourselves, those fancy ads and claims mean nothing.</p>
<p>I know, I know that we have to give some benefit of the doubt and put some trust and faith in others and I do, but when it comes to supplements today, it is a very competitive and lucrative market and I would guarantee that Jamieson isn&#8217;t today as high quality as they were say 30 years ago. So if I had to recommend a company, it would not likely be Jamieson. It wouldn&#8217;t necessarily be Nutrilite either. It all depends on the product needed. The problem with all these companies and supplements is that no 3rd party has yet done some sort of purity or potency test comparing across the board. EWG is amazing at doing things like this, they have done it with cosmetics and bottled water for example&#8230;maybe one day they will do it with supplements.</p>
<p>When it comes to the omega-3 for example, both companies have several varieties. The first thing to do is compare the type of ingredients, as in what fish is used in each one. This alone can make a big difference in price. If you let me know what 2 specifically you are looking at, I can give you a better explanation of their quality. When it comes to fish oils in general, there are many, many poor quality ones out there today regardless of which company they come from. You almost have to cut the capsule in half, and smell/taste whether the fats are fresh or rancid. Secondly, look at the ingredients for fish which are low-mercury or toxin containing. (I don&#8217;t eat fish, so I cannot tell you off hand which it would be.) However, research appears to point to krill being the optimal omega-3 seafood source.</p>
<p>Anyway I hope this helps somewhat.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Evita,

do you have some experiences with Jamieson vitamins?
They have longer history than Nutrilite, but Jamieson prices are 50% lower.

I would like to compare Nutrilite and Jamieson vitamins. Do you have some experiences? 
For example Nutrilite Omega 3. The capsule looks the same as Jamieson. The difference is only the grams. Nutrilite recommends to take 1 per day and Jamieson 2 - 3 per day. Despite this Jamieson is 50% less expensive. 

Is there anybody who can share their experience?

Thank you!

Robert Molnar
robino.molnar@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Evita,</p>
<p>do you have some experiences with Jamieson vitamins?<br />
They have longer history than Nutrilite, but Jamieson prices are 50% lower.</p>
<p>I would like to compare Nutrilite and Jamieson vitamins. Do you have some experiences?<br />
For example Nutrilite Omega 3. The capsule looks the same as Jamieson. The difference is only the grams. Nutrilite recommends to take 1 per day and Jamieson 2 &#8211; 3 per day. Despite this Jamieson is 50% less expensive. </p>
<p>Is there anybody who can share their experience?</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Robert Molnar<br />
<a href="mailto:robino.molnar@gmail.com">robino.molnar@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Meagan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to hear other health companies doing well, as I am in the health business myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to hear other health companies doing well, as I am in the health business myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Evita Ochel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evita Ochel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ BRIDGETT - Hi Bridgett,thanks for stopping by and providing more insight into Nutrilite and its products. Much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ BRIDGETT &#8211; Hi Bridgett,thanks for stopping by and providing more insight into Nutrilite and its products. Much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridgett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Evita,
Great post!
One thing that I&#039;d like to point out is that David, whose comments you and others found very helpful, is a distributor (IBO--Independant Business Owner) for Amway Global (as I am as well). I point this out, so that, yes, while there are some annoying peeps associated with Amway, there are many, many other ones who are a real asset to customers.
Nutrilite&#039;s products and philosphy do sometimes require education, and that&#039;s where an IBO can be very helpful in suggesting a product or two based on a person&#039;s expressed need.
While it is possible to order directly from the Corporation, there is great benefit in having personalized assistance from a knowledgable, non-irritating IBO. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Evita,<br />
Great post!<br />
One thing that I&#8217;d like to point out is that David, whose comments you and others found very helpful, is a distributor (IBO&#8211;Independant Business Owner) for Amway Global (as I am as well). I point this out, so that, yes, while there are some annoying peeps associated with Amway, there are many, many other ones who are a real asset to customers.<br />
Nutrilite&#8217;s products and philosphy do sometimes require education, and that&#8217;s where an IBO can be very helpful in suggesting a product or two based on a person&#8217;s expressed need.<br />
While it is possible to order directly from the Corporation, there is great benefit in having personalized assistance from a knowledgable, non-irritating IBO. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Evita Ochel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evita Ochel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ JOHN - Hello John and thanks for stopping by! And thanks for the feedback and compliment on my &quot;memory&quot;.

Although you are right, I did not use a notebook for most of the day, I did use one to jot down a few notes for Dr. Duke&#039;s presentation.

As for the quinoa, be sure to cook it well according to the instructions, it is super easy though, just as long as one put the right amount of water to quinoa and adheres to the time specified.

Then I find that for me it tastes best if I add some steamed peas, corn, etc to it. Some people like it on its own, but I prefer to add stuff to it - just makes the taste that much better. All the best with it and your health journey :)

@ HANLIE - Thanks for your comment Hanlie. You know all this talk about supplements has inspired me to write a detailed post on the do&#039;s and dont&#039;s of supplements according to my research and opinion. Am going to try for early next month....

@ JULIE - Thank you Julie - you made me smile and blush, as you often do with your loving and kind comments.

As for your question, I guess David beat me to it. The most important thing that I am seeing create a lot of confusion either for or against supplement use is what supplement are we actually talking about. Today we have numerous vitamins, minerals, herbals and more! While I don&#039;t doubt the efficacy of some, I know that others are more hype than anything else.

But I won&#039;t go into more details here, for it would be looooong. So as I mentioned above to Hanlie, what I am going to do is write an article on what I think would help people understand supplements better and make decisions from there.

And I have to agree when it comes to the power of our thoughts. While my academics are rooted in science, I know today the the power of our mind and thus thoughts can be more powerful than any scientifically proven drug or supplement.

Anyhow I hope to have the article on supplements out early next month, where I will address further some of the points you made.

@ PASTAQUEEN - Hi Jennette and how wonderful to have you stop by! Thank you so much for the feedback.

As for our Thanksgiving, we do have it here in Canada, but it is on a Monday, the first weekend of October. Go figure... Anyhow yes it would be tofurkey for me - LOL :) - although I don&#039;t eat that either. Have never tried it actually. Something about imitating animal meat just doesn&#039;t sit right with me... ;)

@ DAVID - Hi David and thank you for your response to not only Julie, but many other people who I am sure are wondering the same thing. 

I appreciate that you gave us a further glimpse into how Nutrilite prepares its supplements.

You bring up some great points too, which I feel need to be addressed further.

So as for the health component, feeling better or worse and the whole issue of to supplement or not to supplement, as I mentioned above I will cover that in more detail in an article soon, as I know this is a confusing, yet very important area for people to know more about.

@ KATIE - Thanks Katie and thank you for stopping by! It is always great to learn new things, the way I see it. As Julie above mentioned, &quot;the more we know, the more informed decisions we can make.&quot;

Do let me know if you ever have any questions when it comes to a nutritionally optimal diet, etc. as this is my passion and I love to help others get the best health that they can - naturally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ JOHN &#8211; Hello John and thanks for stopping by! And thanks for the feedback and compliment on my &#8220;memory&#8221;.</p>
<p>Although you are right, I did not use a notebook for most of the day, I did use one to jot down a few notes for Dr. Duke&#8217;s presentation.</p>
<p>As for the quinoa, be sure to cook it well according to the instructions, it is super easy though, just as long as one put the right amount of water to quinoa and adheres to the time specified.</p>
<p>Then I find that for me it tastes best if I add some steamed peas, corn, etc to it. Some people like it on its own, but I prefer to add stuff to it &#8211; just makes the taste that much better. All the best with it and your health journey :)</p>
<p>@ HANLIE &#8211; Thanks for your comment Hanlie. You know all this talk about supplements has inspired me to write a detailed post on the do&#8217;s and dont&#8217;s of supplements according to my research and opinion. Am going to try for early next month&#8230;.</p>
<p>@ JULIE &#8211; Thank you Julie &#8211; you made me smile and blush, as you often do with your loving and kind comments.</p>
<p>As for your question, I guess David beat me to it. The most important thing that I am seeing create a lot of confusion either for or against supplement use is what supplement are we actually talking about. Today we have numerous vitamins, minerals, herbals and more! While I don&#8217;t doubt the efficacy of some, I know that others are more hype than anything else.</p>
<p>But I won&#8217;t go into more details here, for it would be looooong. So as I mentioned above to Hanlie, what I am going to do is write an article on what I think would help people understand supplements better and make decisions from there.</p>
<p>And I have to agree when it comes to the power of our thoughts. While my academics are rooted in science, I know today the the power of our mind and thus thoughts can be more powerful than any scientifically proven drug or supplement.</p>
<p>Anyhow I hope to have the article on supplements out early next month, where I will address further some of the points you made.</p>
<p>@ PASTAQUEEN &#8211; Hi Jennette and how wonderful to have you stop by! Thank you so much for the feedback.</p>
<p>As for our Thanksgiving, we do have it here in Canada, but it is on a Monday, the first weekend of October. Go figure&#8230; Anyhow yes it would be tofurkey for me &#8211; LOL :) &#8211; although I don&#8217;t eat that either. Have never tried it actually. Something about imitating animal meat just doesn&#8217;t sit right with me&#8230; ;)</p>
<p>@ DAVID &#8211; Hi David and thank you for your response to not only Julie, but many other people who I am sure are wondering the same thing. </p>
<p>I appreciate that you gave us a further glimpse into how Nutrilite prepares its supplements.</p>
<p>You bring up some great points too, which I feel need to be addressed further.</p>
<p>So as for the health component, feeling better or worse and the whole issue of to supplement or not to supplement, as I mentioned above I will cover that in more detail in an article soon, as I know this is a confusing, yet very important area for people to know more about.</p>
<p>@ KATIE &#8211; Thanks Katie and thank you for stopping by! It is always great to learn new things, the way I see it. As Julie above mentioned, &#8220;the more we know, the more informed decisions we can make.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do let me know if you ever have any questions when it comes to a nutritionally optimal diet, etc. as this is my passion and I love to help others get the best health that they can &#8211; naturally.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie West/The Levity Coach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie West/The Levity Coach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evita...wow the event sounds so informative and cool.  Thank you for sharing.  I definitely learned a few new ideas from your article!
Peace,
Katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evita&#8230;wow the event sounds so informative and cool.  Thank you for sharing.  I definitely learned a few new ideas from your article!<br />
Peace,<br />
Katie</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, thank you so much for all the wonderful detail.  The more information people have, the more informed decisions they can make.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, thank you so much for all the wonderful detail.  The more information people have, the more informed decisions they can make.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: David Steadson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Steadson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, I&#039;ve a health research background and have marketed Nutrilite products for many years, so I thought I&#039;d address your questions. Nutrilite&#039;s products are a mix of organic plant concentrates fortified by man-made ingredients where the science supports their use - as the Nutrilite slogan goes &quot;Best of Science, Best of Nature&quot;. I&#039;ve always appreciated this approach as it doesn&#039;t ignore and diminish science, as unfortunately the &quot;everything must be natural&quot; brigade can do sometimes, but also recognizes that there&#039;s a lot we don&#039;t know about nature and it&#039;s had millions of years head start in co-evolving the nutrition we need.

With regards processing, Nutrilite leads the field in this area also, testing plant concentrates to determine the optimum time to harvest as well as controlling and testing for nutritional quality throughout the manufacturing *and distribution* process. You can give Nutrilite the batch number of a bottom of a bottle and they can tell you which farms the ingredients came from and when - and yes, next to that batch number is an expiry date.

Regarding supplementation and &quot;how you feel&quot;, there&#039;s really two separate issues. If your one of the unfortunately raree people who is relatively conscious of your diet, exercise, and eat well, then standards supplements are not likely to make you feel noticeably better. If you&#039;re not one of those people then filling a need for say Iron, or Zinc or whatever may make a noticeable difference. I&#039;ve found if I use the Nutrilite Daily product it doesn&#039;t tend to change how I feel on a daily basis, but I don&#039;t seem to get sick as often. With Double X, I notice the difference. It&#039;s definitely way easier to get out of bed in the morning!

That to one side, the second issue is what&#039;s going on that you *don&#039;t* feel in the short-term. All the stuff that&#039;s having a long-term effect on your health. Independent studies on Double X have for example indicated it helps prevent DNA damage. You&#039;re not going to feel that, but without getting into trouble with the FDA, I&#039;m sure you understand the implications! When I meet people who&#039;ve been using Nutrilite for decades, you can see the difference. They clearly look younger and healthier than the same aged peers. Anecdotal evidence I know, but added all together it&#039;s turned me from a supplement skeptic into a Nutrilite evangelist - and it&#039;s not just anecdotal, it also makes sense when you read the science. Hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, I&#8217;ve a health research background and have marketed Nutrilite products for many years, so I thought I&#8217;d address your questions. Nutrilite&#8217;s products are a mix of organic plant concentrates fortified by man-made ingredients where the science supports their use &#8211; as the Nutrilite slogan goes &#8220;Best of Science, Best of Nature&#8221;. I&#8217;ve always appreciated this approach as it doesn&#8217;t ignore and diminish science, as unfortunately the &#8220;everything must be natural&#8221; brigade can do sometimes, but also recognizes that there&#8217;s a lot we don&#8217;t know about nature and it&#8217;s had millions of years head start in co-evolving the nutrition we need.</p>
<p>With regards processing, Nutrilite leads the field in this area also, testing plant concentrates to determine the optimum time to harvest as well as controlling and testing for nutritional quality throughout the manufacturing *and distribution* process. You can give Nutrilite the batch number of a bottom of a bottle and they can tell you which farms the ingredients came from and when &#8211; and yes, next to that batch number is an expiry date.</p>
<p>Regarding supplementation and &#8220;how you feel&#8221;, there&#8217;s really two separate issues. If your one of the unfortunately raree people who is relatively conscious of your diet, exercise, and eat well, then standards supplements are not likely to make you feel noticeably better. If you&#8217;re not one of those people then filling a need for say Iron, or Zinc or whatever may make a noticeable difference. I&#8217;ve found if I use the Nutrilite Daily product it doesn&#8217;t tend to change how I feel on a daily basis, but I don&#8217;t seem to get sick as often. With Double X, I notice the difference. It&#8217;s definitely way easier to get out of bed in the morning!</p>
<p>That to one side, the second issue is what&#8217;s going on that you *don&#8217;t* feel in the short-term. All the stuff that&#8217;s having a long-term effect on your health. Independent studies on Double X have for example indicated it helps prevent DNA damage. You&#8217;re not going to feel that, but without getting into trouble with the FDA, I&#8217;m sure you understand the implications! When I meet people who&#8217;ve been using Nutrilite for decades, you can see the difference. They clearly look younger and healthier than the same aged peers. Anecdotal evidence I know, but added all together it&#8217;s turned me from a supplement skeptic into a Nutrilite evangelist &#8211; and it&#8217;s not just anecdotal, it also makes sense when you read the science. Hope that helps!</p>
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		<title>By: PastaQueen</title>
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		<dc:creator>PastaQueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an excellent and detailed wrap up of our day. It was great meeting you! Do you guys celebrate Thanksgiving in Canada? If so, have a Happy Turkey Day (or Tofurkey Day in your case).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an excellent and detailed wrap up of our day. It was great meeting you! Do you guys celebrate Thanksgiving in Canada? If so, have a Happy Turkey Day (or Tofurkey Day in your case).</p>
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