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		<title>By: Evita Ochel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evita Ochel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DR.HESHAM - Well isn&#039;t that something how you found me... we must have been on the same thought wave in how we see this situation indeed.

You know, whether it is the swine flu, regular flu or even some other disease, I just think it is too bad and frankly sad, that the people who should really be looking out for us and focusing on real prevention through diet and exercise, just aren&#039;t.

We are pushed pills, vaccines and surgeries left, right and center, but what about the quality prevention before we even need any of these?

Anyhow, I am so glad you stopped by and found this article informative. I really feel blessed that I can just help people out there expand their perspective on important topics, especially when it comes to health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DR.HESHAM &#8211; Well isn&#8217;t that something how you found me&#8230; we must have been on the same thought wave in how we see this situation indeed.</p>
<p>You know, whether it is the swine flu, regular flu or even some other disease, I just think it is too bad and frankly sad, that the people who should really be looking out for us and focusing on real prevention through diet and exercise, just aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>We are pushed pills, vaccines and surgeries left, right and center, but what about the quality prevention before we even need any of these?</p>
<p>Anyhow, I am so glad you stopped by and found this article informative. I really feel blessed that I can just help people out there expand their perspective on important topics, especially when it comes to health.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Hesham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Hesham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Evita
I found your article while doing a Google search. Believe it .. I started my search using the search phrase: &quot;there is something fishy in the topic of Swine flu&quot;, then I came to you.
Being a Radiologist, the issues of infectious disease is somehow far from my experience, however, the basics of Medicine, the commom sense of health and the experiences from previous epidemics all tell us that there is something ... fishy.
As you pointed, in the last few decades it was so prominent that great catastrophes allover the world have different meaning to some others. Notice these couples: Wars and Weapon companies, Wars and Construction companies, Epidemics and drug companies ... and so many others.
Thanks Evita, your article has helped me a lot ... I will not take the vaccine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Evita<br />
I found your article while doing a Google search. Believe it .. I started my search using the search phrase: &#8220;there is something fishy in the topic of Swine flu&#8221;, then I came to you.<br />
Being a Radiologist, the issues of infectious disease is somehow far from my experience, however, the basics of Medicine, the commom sense of health and the experiences from previous epidemics all tell us that there is something &#8230; fishy.<br />
As you pointed, in the last few decades it was so prominent that great catastrophes allover the world have different meaning to some others. Notice these couples: Wars and Weapon companies, Wars and Construction companies, Epidemics and drug companies &#8230; and so many others.<br />
Thanks Evita, your article has helped me a lot &#8230; I will not take the vaccine</p>
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		<title>By: Evita Ochel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evita Ochel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ALEX - Thank you for including your thoughts and feedback.

Where the vaccines are concerned, I think it is a bit of a touchy area depending on the research or beliefs or perspectives one has chosen to adopt about them. I personally am not for vaccines any longer, not even so much for what they contain, as to what I have learned about the human body in terms of its own healing powers. 

Yes as a child and youth I got vaccines. Would I be giving them to my children - no. I publicly state that not to influence others, but because each one of us has to find our own truth that we are comfortable with and hopefully live with it, not just adopt the truths of others.

And I definitely agree with you, it all goes back to the mainstream media, as I pointed out as well, but somethings gotta give here. Perhaps the governments are not &quot;scientifically&quot; inclined to know better, but doctors and researchers should. Someone should be clearing these facts and instead we have the masses in a panic over this for the most part, and for many of the wrong reasons. 

Ultimately, my view points are from a natural health perspective - so they may not jive with all people, I understand that. Especially that the majority is influenced by regular doctors, who are in turn influenced by the drug companies.

I do have one item though that I cannot agree with you on and that is that people don&#039;t get sick from getting the flu shot. Vaccines don&#039;t always contain &quot;dead&quot; organisms. In fact most of the time, they are &quot;weakened&quot; organisms which very much can cause a disease depending on the strength of the person&#039;s immune system.

So definitely, the information out there has to be looked at critically and with almost a fine toothed comb to really extract any substance from it - thanks again for your thoughts.

For further reading I also recommend the following article from Mike Adams of NaturalNews.com - 10 Swine Flue Lies Told By The Mainstream Media

http://www.naturalnews.com/027055_swine_flu_vaccines_swine_flu_vaccine.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ALEX &#8211; Thank you for including your thoughts and feedback.</p>
<p>Where the vaccines are concerned, I think it is a bit of a touchy area depending on the research or beliefs or perspectives one has chosen to adopt about them. I personally am not for vaccines any longer, not even so much for what they contain, as to what I have learned about the human body in terms of its own healing powers. </p>
<p>Yes as a child and youth I got vaccines. Would I be giving them to my children &#8211; no. I publicly state that not to influence others, but because each one of us has to find our own truth that we are comfortable with and hopefully live with it, not just adopt the truths of others.</p>
<p>And I definitely agree with you, it all goes back to the mainstream media, as I pointed out as well, but somethings gotta give here. Perhaps the governments are not &#8220;scientifically&#8221; inclined to know better, but doctors and researchers should. Someone should be clearing these facts and instead we have the masses in a panic over this for the most part, and for many of the wrong reasons. </p>
<p>Ultimately, my view points are from a natural health perspective &#8211; so they may not jive with all people, I understand that. Especially that the majority is influenced by regular doctors, who are in turn influenced by the drug companies.</p>
<p>I do have one item though that I cannot agree with you on and that is that people don&#8217;t get sick from getting the flu shot. Vaccines don&#8217;t always contain &#8220;dead&#8221; organisms. In fact most of the time, they are &#8220;weakened&#8221; organisms which very much can cause a disease depending on the strength of the person&#8217;s immune system.</p>
<p>So definitely, the information out there has to be looked at critically and with almost a fine toothed comb to really extract any substance from it &#8211; thanks again for your thoughts.</p>
<p>For further reading I also recommend the following article from Mike Adams of NaturalNews.com &#8211; 10 Swine Flue Lies Told By The Mainstream Media</p>
<p><a href="http://www.naturalnews.com/027055_swine_flu_vaccines_swine_flu_vaccine.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.naturalnews.com/027055_swine_flu_vaccines_swine_flu_vaccine.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think you&#039;re on to something in terms of inflated scare levels, there are a few incorrect facts here. Guillain-Barre syndrome is an extremely rare risk of many vaccines, with an incidence of less than one per million. Flu shots save lives, even with their risks. Keep in mind that for most of us, flue (swine or normal) is a mild inconvenience that we can indeed beat (or prevent) by being healthy. For immunocompromised persons, this is not the case.

Personally I&#039;d point my finger at the MSM for making a mountain out of a molehill. The health authorities are scared of swine flu not because it&#039;s remotely dangerous (as you point out, less so than seasonal flu), but because no one has preexisting immunity (of a targeted form). Should the swine flu cross with other types of flue, an extremely deadly hybrid could potentially develop. This is not an urgent concern, though it is a serious one. But a swine flu vaccine won&#039;t help there.

It&#039;s a government response to media-spread panic.

There are vaccines which are more dangerous than the conditions they prevent (essentially how likely you are to suffer severe damage and how likely you are to get it). This is why we don&#039;t immunize Americans against anthrax in general -- far more would die of the vaccine.

I should also add that it is not possible to contract influenza from a flu vaccine because flu vaccines do not contain viable organisms. The flu-like symptoms experienced by some people are caused by the immune response to the vaccine -- when it&#039;s working as intended.

Anyway, we have a lot of vaccines we don&#039;t use precisely because they don&#039;t make numerical sense. Just like any drug or medical treatment (or lack thereof), getting a vaccine is a risk. But it&#039;s usually less of one than the disease itself.

Don&#039;t believe everything you read online, those who push unnecessary medicine on us are only one of the many agendas out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think you&#8217;re on to something in terms of inflated scare levels, there are a few incorrect facts here. Guillain-Barre syndrome is an extremely rare risk of many vaccines, with an incidence of less than one per million. Flu shots save lives, even with their risks. Keep in mind that for most of us, flue (swine or normal) is a mild inconvenience that we can indeed beat (or prevent) by being healthy. For immunocompromised persons, this is not the case.</p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;d point my finger at the MSM for making a mountain out of a molehill. The health authorities are scared of swine flu not because it&#8217;s remotely dangerous (as you point out, less so than seasonal flu), but because no one has preexisting immunity (of a targeted form). Should the swine flu cross with other types of flue, an extremely deadly hybrid could potentially develop. This is not an urgent concern, though it is a serious one. But a swine flu vaccine won&#8217;t help there.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a government response to media-spread panic.</p>
<p>There are vaccines which are more dangerous than the conditions they prevent (essentially how likely you are to suffer severe damage and how likely you are to get it). This is why we don&#8217;t immunize Americans against anthrax in general &#8212; far more would die of the vaccine.</p>
<p>I should also add that it is not possible to contract influenza from a flu vaccine because flu vaccines do not contain viable organisms. The flu-like symptoms experienced by some people are caused by the immune response to the vaccine &#8212; when it&#8217;s working as intended.</p>
<p>Anyway, we have a lot of vaccines we don&#8217;t use precisely because they don&#8217;t make numerical sense. Just like any drug or medical treatment (or lack thereof), getting a vaccine is a risk. But it&#8217;s usually less of one than the disease itself.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe everything you read online, those who push unnecessary medicine on us are only one of the many agendas out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Evita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ PL CHANG - Thank you so much for including that video, it sounds interesting and I am going over now to watch it!

But in general there are some &quot;interesting&quot; to say the least things going on with this whole swine flu vaccine. I am just glad that here in Canada so far they are talking about making this voluntary to whoever wants it, although I am sure at medical places or schools it may become mandatory. We&#039;ll see.

You left people with some good advice too on what to research and look into - thank you, this is all very helpful, for the more we learn, the better we are at making a wise decision that we will not come to regret in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ PL CHANG &#8211; Thank you so much for including that video, it sounds interesting and I am going over now to watch it!</p>
<p>But in general there are some &#8220;interesting&#8221; to say the least things going on with this whole swine flu vaccine. I am just glad that here in Canada so far they are talking about making this voluntary to whoever wants it, although I am sure at medical places or schools it may become mandatory. We&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>You left people with some good advice too on what to research and look into &#8211; thank you, this is all very helpful, for the more we learn, the better we are at making a wise decision that we will not come to regret in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: PL Chang</title>
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		<dc:creator>PL Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I heard about the US gov&#039;t giving immunity to the company Baxter. Baxter is being sued by Jane Burgermeister, an Austrian journalist, because she found out that Baxter deliberately contaminated certain vaccine with the bird flu virus. If the US gov&#039;t give immunity to Baxter, Jane&#039;s action may be useless. 

The swine flu vaccine should be available by fall. I advised everyone to do their research before taking this flu shot. Most, if not all vaccine contains harmful chemicals and heavy metals. For alternatives, you may want to do research on vitamin D3, nano-silver and colloidal silver. If you want to know the secrets of the vaccine industry, visit the video link below.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8119523476709184666&amp;ei=Jw56SpnyCobOqQLJi4WtDQ&amp;q=Video%3A+Vaccines+and+Childhood+Illnesses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I heard about the US gov&#8217;t giving immunity to the company Baxter. Baxter is being sued by Jane Burgermeister, an Austrian journalist, because she found out that Baxter deliberately contaminated certain vaccine with the bird flu virus. If the US gov&#8217;t give immunity to Baxter, Jane&#8217;s action may be useless. </p>
<p>The swine flu vaccine should be available by fall. I advised everyone to do their research before taking this flu shot. Most, if not all vaccine contains harmful chemicals and heavy metals. For alternatives, you may want to do research on vitamin D3, nano-silver and colloidal silver. If you want to know the secrets of the vaccine industry, visit the video link below.</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8119523476709184666&amp;ei=Jw56SpnyCobOqQLJi4WtDQ&amp;q=Video%3A+Vaccines+and+Childhood+Illnesses" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8119523476709184666&amp;ei=Jw56SpnyCobOqQLJi4WtDQ&amp;q=Video%3A+Vaccines+and+Childhood+Illnesses</a></p>
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		<title>By: Swine Flu is a Hoax just to get your money &#124; Tomasz Gorecki &#124; Debt In Your 20's Is The Kiss of Death</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swine Flu is a Hoax just to get your money &#124; Tomasz Gorecki &#124; Debt In Your 20's Is The Kiss of Death</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that the US gov&#039;t is giving immunity to the company making the swine flu vaccine (Baxter apparently).  So they won&#039;t even have to worry too much about making it safe since the public will have no recourse even if thousands die from the vaccine.

Obama - change you can believe in!  lol.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that the US gov&#8217;t is giving immunity to the company making the swine flu vaccine (Baxter apparently).  So they won&#8217;t even have to worry too much about making it safe since the public will have no recourse even if thousands die from the vaccine.</p>
<p>Obama &#8211; change you can believe in!  lol.<br />
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.</p>
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		<title>By: Evita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PL CHANG - You hit on an excellent point, it always does come down to the immune system, even when getting vaccinated.

This is where I believe lies the secret why some people get sick from the vaccine and some don&#039;t. In some ways, probably the people who are most vulnerable to getting the flu may also be the ones who will be most vulnerable to getting sick from the vaccine and their system is overwhelmed as it is.

Thank you so much for your valuable addition and feedback!

@ PAT WATSON - Pat I want to start by saying a HUGE thank you for sharing your story. People like you are real, and more common than people realize, in terms of suffering unnecesary damage from vaccines.

It is too bad indeed that this info was not out before. That is why I feel we are so blessed to live today in a time where we at least have a choice, a choice to get educated on what we are putting in or on our bodies (in most countries that is).

No one should be forced to put anything like that into their system. Like I always say, just give the people the choice to choose for themselves, and for those of us who are really lucky, we will simply consult our intuition and know right away if something is right or wrong for us.

Thank you so much again for sharing your story, I know you will touch the lives of many readers and perhaps save them from a similar fate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PL CHANG &#8211; You hit on an excellent point, it always does come down to the immune system, even when getting vaccinated.</p>
<p>This is where I believe lies the secret why some people get sick from the vaccine and some don&#8217;t. In some ways, probably the people who are most vulnerable to getting the flu may also be the ones who will be most vulnerable to getting sick from the vaccine and their system is overwhelmed as it is.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your valuable addition and feedback!</p>
<p>@ PAT WATSON &#8211; Pat I want to start by saying a HUGE thank you for sharing your story. People like you are real, and more common than people realize, in terms of suffering unnecesary damage from vaccines.</p>
<p>It is too bad indeed that this info was not out before. That is why I feel we are so blessed to live today in a time where we at least have a choice, a choice to get educated on what we are putting in or on our bodies (in most countries that is).</p>
<p>No one should be forced to put anything like that into their system. Like I always say, just give the people the choice to choose for themselves, and for those of us who are really lucky, we will simply consult our intuition and know right away if something is right or wrong for us.</p>
<p>Thank you so much again for sharing your story, I know you will touch the lives of many readers and perhaps save them from a similar fate!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your informative and cautionary article.  I wish this had been out when the 1976-77 Swine Flu &quot;epidemic&quot; hit the U.S.  I was teaching in a country school when this happened.  Just by being out in the &quot;nowheres&quot; the chance of exposure was nil.  I had not planned to get a vaccination, but the school district sent a Dr. out to give all teachers a shot. I was the only hold out and I wish to heavens I had stuck with my stubborn stance.  I finally gave in to peer pressure, got the stupid shot and became very ill.  It knocked my entire immune system out and I was paralyzed with severely swollen glands for a few days.  I was one of the healthiest people around before that shot. 

 I didn&#039;t find out about the &quot;side effect&quot; knowledge until many years later.  By then I&#039;d developed fibromyalgia, no end of digestive disorders, sjogren&#039;s syndrome and on and on.  Since I was so healthy before the vaccination, I realized it was behind all my new health issues.   I&#039;ve worked hard to turn things around with my diet and healthy way of living, but that shot took its toll for decades and is still an issue for me 30-some years later!  I&#039;m pretty certain I&#039;d have an entire different story if I hadn&#039;t gotten vaccinated!  So do beware!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your informative and cautionary article.  I wish this had been out when the 1976-77 Swine Flu &#8220;epidemic&#8221; hit the U.S.  I was teaching in a country school when this happened.  Just by being out in the &#8220;nowheres&#8221; the chance of exposure was nil.  I had not planned to get a vaccination, but the school district sent a Dr. out to give all teachers a shot. I was the only hold out and I wish to heavens I had stuck with my stubborn stance.  I finally gave in to peer pressure, got the stupid shot and became very ill.  It knocked my entire immune system out and I was paralyzed with severely swollen glands for a few days.  I was one of the healthiest people around before that shot. </p>
<p> I didn&#8217;t find out about the &#8220;side effect&#8221; knowledge until many years later.  By then I&#8217;d developed fibromyalgia, no end of digestive disorders, sjogren&#8217;s syndrome and on and on.  Since I was so healthy before the vaccination, I realized it was behind all my new health issues.   I&#8217;ve worked hard to turn things around with my diet and healthy way of living, but that shot took its toll for decades and is still an issue for me 30-some years later!  I&#8217;m pretty certain I&#8217;d have an entire different story if I hadn&#8217;t gotten vaccinated!  So do beware!</p>
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