As we all get more and more health conscious, many of us are choosing to take advantage of the services of some sort of nutritional expert. Between various types of nutritionists, dietitians, counsellors and consultants, the task can be a bit daunting in knowing who to best work with.
In order to make a better decision about such a choice, it is my pleasure to welcome today Alexander Rinehart MSACN., DC., of CoActive Health to Evolving Wellness. Alex is currently a chiropractor and nutritionist, who is studying to become a clinical nutritionist.
In getting to know Alex, I have found him to be highly knowledgeable on all things nutrition related. He specializes in approaching health and wellness from a holistic point of view, while having a strong background in the proper science to support that. I had the chance to ask Alex all sorts of important questions when it comes to our health, nutrition and overall wellness, and will be featuring his responses in a 4 part interview series.
This first part will focus on understanding the difference between a nutritionist and dietitian, and to specifically learn what the work of a clinical nutritionist entails.
In part 2, Alex will share some very timely and valuable nutritional advice and give us a better understanding of how to understand nutrition and healthy eating. In part 3, we will learn to understand how scientific studies are run and their real importance. And finally in part 4, we will look at some commonly prescribed drugs and the role traditional medicine plays in our health.
EVITA: Hi Alex and welcome to Evolving Wellness. It is wonderful to have you here today as we discuss some of the pressing topics in the areas of health and nutrition.
Alex, to start off with your background is in clinical nutrition. Can you share with the readers what exactly that entails and how is it different for example, from other classes of nutritionists or dietitians?
ALEX: Thanks Evita, thanks for giving me an opportunity to speak with you. My training is in Clinical Nutrition, but currently I can only call myself a Nutritionist until I take the Certified Clinical Nutritionist examination this coming August 2010. I must also say that there are a lot of overlaps to how other classes of nutritionists may practice, so my statements are general rules and may not reflect individual practice.
When most people think of Nutritionists, they typically think of Registered Dietitians or RD’s. RD’s are more mainstream and are referred to more often by health professionals. They are trained typically at an undergraduate level and many will pursue graduate training. Once graduated, they also complete some continuing education requirements. Many of their recommendations will reflect meeting the Recommended Daily Allowances (RDA’s) that you find on nutrition labels and helping patients make healthier dietary substitutions and plan their meals. Their training is best equipped to design menus at cafeterias in school and hospital/skilled nursing settings for example and counsel patients on general nutritional strategies. Many will conduct individual consultations as well and help patients with diabetes, weight loss and other nutrition issues.
The American Dietetic Association (ADA) sets many of the guidelines for RD’s and unfortunately, the ADA has historically resisted Nutrition as a “therapy”. The ADA describes nutrition more as a tool used in conjunction with traditional medical treatment to promote general health and wellness. Every approach has it’s value and as is the case in all professions, a few bad eggs can make a lot of noise and promote false generalizations. We could also have a lengthy argument on the political influences on the ADA’s recommendations. What I have found in my studies and my own experience, broad recommendations may be true for a large group, but can fail to apply to specific individuals. For instance drinking skim milk instead of whole milk is better for the entire population, but it still may not be an optimum beverage choice for an individual.
Clinical Nutrition is more concerned with specific clinical cases and giving supportive dietary changes and supplementation in a “clinical” dosage to affect a therapeutic change. To be fully certified as a CCN you need to have a professional degree (MD, DO, DC, etc), have graduate training in nutrition, and in many cases complete a certain number of hours of supervised nutritional counseling.
Although a CCN can unfortunately become just another set of credentials, clinical nutritionists tend to appreciate the interaction of many body systems working together and the role nutrition has to play in those body systems. They are health professionals who utilize nutrition as a core part of their practice.
Clinical nutritionists use general nutrition recommendations as a baseline, but tend to take a more “clinical” approach to individual cases with vitamin supplementation, targeted food selection, and high potency “medical food”, “nutraceuticals” and other herbal remedies. Although it can seem very medical, I take a holistic approach to my evaluations and push toward whole food and lifestyle approaches.
This approach is becoming more and more common and many professional and political groups are lobbying for control over the industry. Pharmaceutical companies are beginning to offer “Pharmaceutical grade” supplements in recognition of some of the documented benefits of these treatment approaches. Tighter Food & Drug Administration (FDA) regulations are also likely on the sale of supplements.
EVITA: That is wonderful information Alex – thank you so much for sharing that. I know that when I was taking my nutrition courses, a lot of the material referenced what the ADA recommends, and I just could not agree with some of it. So your clarification makes a lot of sense as to how that system works.
So based on the above information, please tell us more as to what your practice involves. In other words what does a typical appointment with you look like and what more can clients expect?
ALEX: I look to patterns of symptomatology and how those patterns reflect underlying function which is a better measure of health. It takes at least 45 minutes to over an hour to actually fill out my intake forms and my initial consultations typically take 1.5 hours and can even stretch to be 2 hours long. I take into consideration socioeconomic, chemical, physical, emotional & spiritual aspects of disease, and this takes time.
I have a undergraduate background in “Social Issues and Health” from Juniata College and grew up in a food insecure home so I bring those experiences to the table. I tend to stay away from calorie counting or keeping points systems. Some counting can be valuable in some instances, but it’s not an approach I like to lead with. In most cases, I will also recommend stress reduction and behavior management strategies that we can all benefit from.
In my evaluation, I look as early in to your history as to whether you born by vaginal delivery or c-section, whether you were breastfed or formula fed. I look at medications you may have taken as a child and throughout your adulthood. I care about the relationship you have with your spouse and your kids, and the support network you may have with volunteer or religious organizations. As a holistic practitioner, I need all of this information because if my suggestions cannot work within the context of your life, what use does it have?
I’ve seen close family members grossly mismanaged by the current health system so I want to make sure that I’m honest and direct, while being supportive and challenging at the same time. If I can’t offer something to help a patient, than I refer them to an appropriate professional and do my best to follow-up with their case.
I help patients achieve a wide range of health goals including weight loss, stress reduction, headaches, food allergies and food sensitivities, blood sugar control, and healthy triglyceride and cholesterol levels. I can also use nutrition to support musculoskeletal pain syndromes and related disorders like fibromyalgia. I review potential interactions with medications, and look to the benefits of taking supplements with certain medications. I can even work with depression and behavioral disorders like Attention Deficit Disorder and Autism. The extent and scope of nutrition is incredible and sometimes by its very nature will require comanagement with other health professionals.
Even as a chiropractor, I love working with nutrition. Your gut has more nerve connections than your spinal cord and is a highly important immune organ. We have only began to understand the implications of gut-mind-body interactions and I don’t see any one field as a separate entity.
EVITA: Alex thank you so much for all this enlightening information. I really appreciate your approach to health and wellness, especially where nutrition is concerned, as I know of the strong connection between all aspects of our lives, and our health. Traditional medicine likes to tackle one problem at a time, but it often fails to address the individual as a whole, and this can often lead to all sorts of new problems, so your approach is fantastic!
To all of our readers, I hope you enjoyed this first segment with Alexander Rinehart and please join us in part 2 where we will discuss some important facts to keep in mind when deciding what is healthy, and how to approach natural food and nutrition.
In the meantime, if you would like to contact Alex or read some of the information he shares with readers, check out CoActive Health.













9 Comments to “Understanding Nutritionists vs Dietitians: Interview with Clinical Nutrition Expert Alexander Rinehart – Part 1”
I like Alex’s holistic approach. I think too many nutritionist don’t look at the larger picture. They only look at the present moment, but the past is the best indicator of what a person is willing to do to change.
I’m surprised that the ADA does not look at nutrition as therapy. What we put into our bodies will dictate our emotional state. If we put in junk of course we will get depressed. We must be more aware of what we put into our bodies and how it makes us feel.
Hi Karl
I totally agree on all you stated. This is why it is so uplifting to know that more and more holistic practitioners are available today, and more and more people are seeking the alternative approach to health, that takes the whole person into consideration.
I love this article. I am struggling right now with the choice of returning to school. I do not believe in a lot of the ADA’s recommendations, and I do believe in a more holistic approach. However, if I were to pursue a degree in Clinical Nutrition, and spend all the $ the goes with it, I am concerned with the general public not taking my credentials as seriously as being a RD. I am not interested in working in a hospital, nor giving the vague guidelines of the FDA food pyramid. I am currently a personal trainer, I have my own in-home fitness business.. and have wanted to go into the nutrition field for over 12 years…the extensive internship, FDA guidelines, and financial have held me back. I would love to talk to anyone that has more info on the clinical nutrition program, and what I may be able to do with it when I am finished.
Dear Laury,
Well if it’s a Master’s program, you’ll have the recognition of Master’s level training which puts you above the individuals just calling themselves nutritionists, the pyramid scheme and cleanse people, or the other trainers just throwing protein powder at people. The CCN certification is really for individuals with existing professional degrees. In fact, I may not be pursuing the credentials at this point because nutrition is part of my degree as a Chiropractor and the Master’s degree is enough to be given extra recognition in the public’s eye. The CCN is a close-knit group so you do get some Mastermind benefits, as well as some professional benefits if you were to ever look to be published, be a speaker at certain conferences, etc. But regardless I’m a believer that no matter the track you desire there’s ways to get there on the outskirts of the what’s considered “normal”
And in defense of the RD track, you still have your choice as an individual professional on how you will practice, it’s just that the professional bias is there and that could be frustrating while going through school. Egos are everywhere in this field so just stick to your guns, give quality care and your results will speak for themselves.
Thank you Alex for sharing that great advice!
I can not thank you enough for the advice & your insight! You are absolutely correct about sticking to your guns…that was my original plan..but wanted to see if there was another route I could go with minimal egos; that would put me way ahead of the protein pushing trainers, and the vitamin pyramid scheme snake oil salesman. I would love to get published or be a speaker some day. I am extremely passionate about nutrition; and would like to make a legitimate career out of it. i do not have a professional degree yet, so that is the roadblock standing in my way. Thanks again! I have some work to do!
Thank you Alex for this descriptive article. I am a recently accredited Certified Nutritional Practitioner, aka Orthomolecular Practitioner, aka Holisic Nurtitional Practitioner….. do you see where I am going with this… it is all a litlle confusing and I have been reasearching articlessuch as this so that I can confidently answer what the differences are betwwen myself and Registered Dieticians.
I had researdched the difference between the two in terms of course material and found, as you had mentioned, that the RD program was influenced by the ADA or in my case the equivalent in Canadian standards, and are often referring to general nutrition guidlines and RDAs as opposed to individual needs and symptomatology. In light of my findings, I chose to go the holistic route. I spent 2 years and then some training, and feel confident in my knowledge, but I am now finding that the areas I would like to apply my knowledge, are only considering RDs! uggggg The purpose of my reply is to strongly encourage those whoare considering entering the wonderful world of nutrition, to consider and research what it is that they would like to ultimately like to do with their knowledge once completed, and weigh the mode of training on this end goal. I have the choices of changing where I’d like to apply myself, so that I will be heard, or go backand get the RD beside my name so I will be heard. Not sure that I would make the best RD student now, with my knowledge of the holistic approach. :-D
But I am determined to make a difference.
Shaney
Twitter: heal_to_toe
I resent your notion Alex that RD’s are mindless drones for the ADA , which is now called the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics (AND), and big agribusiness. We all love the field of nutrition and food science just like most nutrition health care professionals and prefer to heal our patients/clients with natural whole foods, and quality supplements if needed, utilizing a whole-person holistic approach while trying our best to customize the nutrition therapy to a patient/clients available time, cultural customs, and economic constraints. This is why we went into this field!
Per your definition Alex I practice clinical nutrition therapy as most of us RD’s do. While I have to be registered through the Commission on Dietetic Registration which is affiliated with the ADA/AND I am not a member of the ADA/AND because I do not agree with the organization being in bed with big agribusiness nor do I like how they have promoted us. Most RD’s I know are very unhappy with the ADA/AND and are fighting to reform the organization and how they have promoted, or not promoted, RD’s.
Being a RD does not mean that we prescribe to a ‘set’ of ideals by any one organization as you are implying Alex. Being a RD does show that we have followed a rigorously designed nutrition program and passed a national board examination to practice, along with requirements for continuing education to be able to continue your registration. This education and credentialing process also allows a RD to get reimbursed from insurance companies and Medicare/Medicaid, although only for a few health conditions which is another frustration for all RD’s and those health professionals wanting to provide what is best for their clients and patients.
Being a professional health care provider involves using your knowledge base and critical thinking and evaluation skills to determine what is best for each patient/client while using evidenced-based medicine, critically reading and evaluating research to determine its quality and clinical application, along with continually updating your skills and knowledge base.
Instead of trying to fracture and divide nutrition professionals we should be striving to bring us together to advocate for our patients/clients and the public at large for better health care reimbursement for preventative medicine, combining our knowledge and expertise to continue the good fight against big agribusiness and corrupt politicians, pushing for quality health care reform, and pushing for more policies and programs for local sustainable agriculture and expanded farm-to-school and farm-to-hospital programs.
Thanks Sandy for taking the time to comment and respond to the article. I appreciate your insight into the broad spectrum of dietetics.
I’m sorry that you felt resentment against some of my statements. I did not intend for my statements to be accusatory in any sense. In review of your response, I feel it actually shows that we actually agree on more points than those we may disagree on and appreciate the work that you stand for.